Friday 31 January 2020
Ten Things You Didn't Know About Bangkok Utd: 2015
Ten fun facts about Bangkok Utd, from July, 2015.
1. Defender Mika Chunuonsee, who comes from Wales in England, suffers from Logizomechanaphobia, which is a fear of computers.
2. Chairman Kakorn Chiaravanont is a big fan of 80s UK New Romantics Spandau Ballet and insists that the team have the name of his favourite song on their shirts.
3. The father of coach Mano Polking invented the Mamy Poko baby pants. He named the product after his son.
4. Bangkok Utd used to be known as Bangkok University. They changed their name in honour of Oxford and Cambridge universities, whose college football teams also became Uniteds.
5. In his youth, striker Romain Gasmi was a big fan of the cheeky 1970s series of Confessions films. Before he became a footballer he worked as a window cleaner, a driving instructor and at a holiday camp.
6. Bangkok Utd's slogan is "We Are the Capital". However, there is still confusion at the club as to where the emphasis should be. Is it "WE Are the Capital" or "We ARE the Capital".
7. Forward Ronnachai Rongsiyo never eats shredded wheat.
8. Montenegrin midfielder Dragan Boskovic has ridden across the desert on a horse with no name, stayed at the Hotel California and once got lost between the Moon and New York City.
9. The Thai-Japanese Stadium has a capacity of 100,000 and boasts the world's only invisible retractable roof.
10. New signing Jaycee John is named after the Punk Poet John Cooper Clarke. His parents are big fans of the Bard of Salford.
1. Defender Mika Chunuonsee, who comes from Wales in England, suffers from Logizomechanaphobia, which is a fear of computers.
2. Chairman Kakorn Chiaravanont is a big fan of 80s UK New Romantics Spandau Ballet and insists that the team have the name of his favourite song on their shirts.
3. The father of coach Mano Polking invented the Mamy Poko baby pants. He named the product after his son.
4. Bangkok Utd used to be known as Bangkok University. They changed their name in honour of Oxford and Cambridge universities, whose college football teams also became Uniteds.
5. In his youth, striker Romain Gasmi was a big fan of the cheeky 1970s series of Confessions films. Before he became a footballer he worked as a window cleaner, a driving instructor and at a holiday camp.
6. Bangkok Utd's slogan is "We Are the Capital". However, there is still confusion at the club as to where the emphasis should be. Is it "WE Are the Capital" or "We ARE the Capital".
7. Forward Ronnachai Rongsiyo never eats shredded wheat.
8. Montenegrin midfielder Dragan Boskovic has ridden across the desert on a horse with no name, stayed at the Hotel California and once got lost between the Moon and New York City.
9. The Thai-Japanese Stadium has a capacity of 100,000 and boasts the world's only invisible retractable roof.
10. New signing Jaycee John is named after the Punk Poet John Cooper Clarke. His parents are big fans of the Bard of Salford.
Day Trip To Ayutthya - Video: 2009
In early 2009, ThaiLeagueFootball.com webmaster, Nigel Bayne made a pilot for a proposed English language TV programme about the local game. This piece of never before seen footage from the show, features the host approaching two unsuspecting American tourists and whisking them off to watch a TPL match between PEA Ayutthya and SriRacha.
Part One
Part Two
Thursday 30 January 2020
NEW!! The State Of The Game by Greg H: 2020
Greg H was a regular contributor to the old Thai Football Webboard and one of the first people to start an independent English language website dedicated to a local league club - his Thunderdome Muang Thong Utd Fan Blog was born in September, 2009. After going into "hibernation" in February, 2013, he has kept a very low profile. However, I recently caught up with him and persuaded him to put pen to paper once again. Here's the result...
I got a shock last week when my Facebook profile came up with one of those pictures from the past labeled as “six years ago today”. It was me at a Muangthong United game with my son, one of those events that I’ve mentally filed under “a couple of years ago, maybe more” in my mind but sure enough, it was a darn sight longer ago.
Perhaps part of the reason that the time lapse seems surprising is because Thai football has stagnated, particularly in my area. When my work scheduled changed a few years back, I began to attend fewer Muangthong games and –despite the usual “bandwagon” accusations – I attended more games of then-second division Nonthaburi FC until the club essentially entered a kind of football version of purgatory. By finishing bottom of the lowest professional division, the club were forced to either enter the amateur league or take a year off. That “year off” has become a “few years off” and there seems to be no word on when or if they will return. Their stadium is now used by Siam FC.
As for Muangthong, their fortunes have almost mirrored the English club they are most often compared with: Manchester United. No longer are they the “team to beat” and for a while last season, they looked in genuine danger of relegation. Luckily the arrival of yet another new coach reversed their fortunes and they climbed back up the league, scoring a rare victory against rivals Buriram Utd on the way. The new coach has recently acknowledged that “the money is not what it once was”, underscoring that perhaps the perceived boom in Thai football a few years back has predictably tailed off. It’s been curtailed perhaps by a combination of factors including lack of planning or new stadiums, failure to eliminate problems on the pitch such as excessive time wasting and the same suspicions of a lack of transparency that permeate other aspects of Thai society.
The decline has been apparent in my recent visits to the Thunderdome stadium. The pre-match build up is a sad, whispering shadow of what it used to be and stands that were packed are now sometimes little more than half full for games against all but the top teams. Naysayers will claim this is an example of fair-weather fans departing a club, and the growth of Buriram Utd shirts on display all around Bangkok may support that, but I do believe it’s not the only reason.
It’s not all doom and gloom though. Dale’s Chonburi have probably benefitted from being the “big” club before the boom, and are still retaining their place among the big boys in the post-boom era, thanks to stable ownership and management. While Bangkok still contains a large number of premier league, oops, sorry, I mean “T1” clubs, non-capital based teams are making their way in such as Trat, Prachuap and champions Chiang Rai Utd.
Lower down the league, the Thai FA have finally acknowledged that maybe, just maybe, having more than 60 clubs competing for 3 promotional slots isn’t ideal and have taken the big step of adding an extra division, though there is still more to be done to make the lower leagues as competitive and healthy as they should be. In their quest to make football as accessible as possible, the league have allowed the creation of clubs that really are little more than a Sunday league team supported by 20 or 30 people. While it’s an admirable effort, I can’t help but wonder if fewer, but bigger and financially stronger, clubs in the lower tiers would be more enticing.
The future for Thai football, like so many things in this wonderful nation, is hard to predict. There’s no reason why Thailand can’t return to the “boom” days (yes I know, I’ve used the word loosely throughout this article) with a more healthy spread of planning and resources this time around. But to keep long-term growth and interest steady, the underlying problems mentioned beforehand need to be tackled honestly and thoroughly. That these seem problems are deeply embedded in cultural and perhaps even political aspects of society, means it’s hard to imagine where the solution could come from. Until then, we’ll just enjoy as much of the flashes of skill, the loyalty of the fans and the fun of a day at the footie as we can.
In Defence Of The New Kit by Phil Larkin: 2011
Chonburi's 2011 playing kit met with a mixed reception on its release . Some people were less than complimentary, describing it as "Hideous", and adding "Not too keen", and "The diagonal stripes don't work for me". However, one fan, Phil Larkin, was really impressed with the new look. Here's what he had to say about the controversial shirt.
In Defence Of The New Kit
by Phil Larkin
2nd February, 2011
Dear Chalamchons,
It has come to my attention that the new kit has divided opinion. Personally, I think it is great and can see Pipop lifting more than one trophy whilst wearing it. Over recent years, there have been many dodgy kits. The pink one Everton had, the tiger print one Hull had and I even had my doubts about Chonburi's orange and blue third strip from last season.
However, as kit manufacturers standardise their designs, it is quite nice to see a little bit of ingenuity going into the design of our new strip. The design appears to be unique and I feel that it is appropriate for a club of our size to have a strip that stands out. Adidas and Nike strips are just the same all over and there is rarely any difference between the stock designs. Chelsea and France, Stoke City and Paraguay are just a couple among the tired and weary world of today's kit designs.
FBT have created a unique kit for us and that is to be applauded. I know that many people feel strongly about their teams strip; Celtic and Newcastle fans went nuts over the fact that the hoops and stripes were not connected one year. We do not have that problem as we have not always worn stripes, and one must always remember that there are AFA rules regarding what can actually be on a strip so as not to make the sponsors irate.
If you are still not convinced, fellow Sharks, please remember that this kit 'is just for a season, and not for life!
In Defence Of The New Kit
by Phil Larkin
2nd February, 2011
Dear Chalamchons,
It has come to my attention that the new kit has divided opinion. Personally, I think it is great and can see Pipop lifting more than one trophy whilst wearing it. Over recent years, there have been many dodgy kits. The pink one Everton had, the tiger print one Hull had and I even had my doubts about Chonburi's orange and blue third strip from last season.
However, as kit manufacturers standardise their designs, it is quite nice to see a little bit of ingenuity going into the design of our new strip. The design appears to be unique and I feel that it is appropriate for a club of our size to have a strip that stands out. Adidas and Nike strips are just the same all over and there is rarely any difference between the stock designs. Chelsea and France, Stoke City and Paraguay are just a couple among the tired and weary world of today's kit designs.
FBT have created a unique kit for us and that is to be applauded. I know that many people feel strongly about their teams strip; Celtic and Newcastle fans went nuts over the fact that the hoops and stripes were not connected one year. We do not have that problem as we have not always worn stripes, and one must always remember that there are AFA rules regarding what can actually be on a strip so as not to make the sponsors irate.
If you are still not convinced, fellow Sharks, please remember that this kit 'is just for a season, and not for life!
A Weekend Away: 2016
League Cup - Round 1
Samut Sakhon 1-4 Chonburi
9th April, 2016
Attendance: 3,420
Match report - plus a bit more
A League Cup tie in Samut Sakhon. The chance for a short weekend getaway and the opportunity to watch some old skool Thai football. Perfect. Here's the story of our trip.
FRIDAY 8th APRIL
After a leisurely breakfast, we left home just before 10:00am and immediately ran into heavy traffic on the SriRacha to Chonburi highway. There had been an accident on the central reservation and this meant that the outside lanes in both directions were closed, as the emergency services dealt with the situation. Thankfully there didn't appear to be any serious injuries, but I doubt that lamp post will see action again. Following a much smoother run on the Chonburi/Bang Na toll road, we once again hit problems on the Rama II Bridge, as the numerous heavy goods vehicles slowed everything down to a crawl. Things didn't get much better on the other side of the river either, when we were faced with more delays, due to roadworks. However, once we got through Samut Sakhon, the roads were clear and we made good time on the final leg of our journey.
We eventually arrived at our canal side resort, on the outskirts of Samut Songkhram, a little after 1:30pm, and the "holiday" could begin. Following a quick shower to freshen up, we mounted a couple of the free bicycles which are avaiable to all guests and set off to explore the local area. It was lovely. So peaceful. And everyone we met greeted us with a smile and a wave. The highlight of the ride was when we saw two dogs chase a big lizard up a tree. Nature at its finest. When we cycled past on our way back sixty minutes later, things were just as they had been earlier - the two dogs patiently waiting at the foot of the tree, while the lizard clung on for dear life thirty feet above them. They're probably still there!
In the evening, we took a boat trip down the canal and the river to Ampawa Floating Market. This, for me, was my favourite part of the weekend. I love boats, and canals, and rivers. I could quite easily live in one of the many houses that grace the banks and travel everywhere by water. The perfect life.
Ampawa itself was fairly quiet, with many of the shops shut, so we ensconsed ourselves in a lovely restaurant, enjoyed a delicious meal and listened to one of the best live house bands I've heard. They covered many different styles and attacked each one with unbridled joy (although, I felt their rendition of All My Loving was too slow). A great way to end the day.
SATURDAY 9th APRIL
We checked out of our resort at midday and made the short trip to the Railway Market in Samut Songkhram. I've driven past this (in)famous place many times, but never actually stopped before, so today was a first for me. Sadly, the timing of our visit meant we were unable to catch the train - or watch it go past. However, my wife had a shopping list as long as her arm, so we managed to keep ourselves occupied for over an hour, as she dragged me from stall to stall in search of various kinds of fish and other seafood. I really enjoyed the experience, in spite of the intense heat - at one point I went outside to stand in the direct sunlight in order to cool down! - and would recommend it to anyone.
After the market, we drove the twenty miles to our next destination - the Central Place Hotel in Samut Sakhon. We had chosen this particular hotel, as the map shows it is located within a five hundred yard walk of the Samut Sakhon Central Stadium - the venue of our evening cup tie. On arrival, we discovered that we weren't the only ones who were enticed by its close proximity to the ground - the entire Chonburi FC entourage had also opted to stay there. Unfortunately, as were staying in a different wing (oh yes!), I didn't get to meet any of the players or coaching staff. However, the bus driver and a couple of the kit lads recognised me and said 'hello'.
Following her exersions at the market earlier in the day, 'er indoors decided that forty winks was preferrable to a dry run (walk) from the hotel to the ground, so I set out on foot by myself for a quick recce of the area. As promised, it only took three or four minutes for me to stroll to the stadium and get my bearings. As it was still a good four hours until kick off, I also managed to take numerous photographs of the groundstaff and TV people setting up in readiness for the big match (see attached). I was able to wander around at will and snap away to my heart's content. The only place I wasn't allowed into was the Chonburi dressing room. They had the tactics board up and didn't want me photographing it (true story!). So, without knowing how we were going to approach the game, I returned to the hotel for a rest and a cup of tea.
A couple of hours later and now with Mrs F in tow, I repeated my earlier amble. Only this time, it was for the real thing. Whereas before the streets had been quiet, there were now groups of people heading purposefully in the direction of the ground and the noise of drums and singing could be heard as soon as we stepped out of the hotel. Match day!
The majority of visiting fans had congregated at a small shop opposite the away end entrance. It was nice to see lots of familiar faces, some who don't go as regularly as they used to, but had taken advantage of the pre Songkran weekend for an overnight stay in Samut Sakhon. Inside the stadium, we were greeted by our friends Tim and Claire, who had very kindly saved space on the terraces for us. Tim also had a present for me - more of which later! - and a nice cold pint.
The match itself was a fairly one sided affair, as Chonburi cruised to victory. Even though the quality of the opposition wasn't that great, it was pleasing to see us pass the ball around and watch players move into space when not in possession. I'm making a rod for my own back here, but slowly and surely Therdsak seems to be imposing his style of play on the team and early signs are encouraging. The defence - and goalkeeper position in particular - is still a worry, but hopefully this will improve once we have a settled back four. Noppanon has returned, which will certainly help in this respect. In midfield, Prakit dominated (as you would expect) and Phanupong really seemed to be enjoying himself. Up front, Leandro and Pipob (in what will surely be a rare outing) worked tirelessly and created plenty of problems for the home defence. So, all in all, a very satisfying evening's work, especially as other PLT teams didn't fare so well.
Once we had cheered the team off and said our goodbyes to our fellow fans, we caught a taxi and headed into town. We found a smart and lively place called Prompt, which was showing the English Premier League - at least it was when we arrived, but they soon switched over to La Liga! However, the food was excellent and reasonably priced, so we stayed for a couple of hours, just enjoying the atmosphere, before heading back to the hotel and bed.
SUNDAY 10th APRIL
We were in no real rush to get home, so after checkng out of the Central Place, we decided to stop off at the Erawan Museum in Samut Prakan. As with the Railway Market, I've passed many times, but never visited. As I'd already forewarned my wife that I would - as always - refuse to pay the "foreigner" price, I made sure I had a survival kit (consisting of a book, a bottle of water and packet of crisps) with me, should I have to kill time whilst she was inside. However, it wasn't necessary, as they accepted my "local" payment without any fuss whatsoever. Result!
The museum itself was quite impressive and we spent a couple of hours just pottering about. I was disappointed that we couldn't actually see anything once we had climbed all the way to the top on the inside of the three headed elephant monument - I was expecting a viewpoint - but I didn't let this spoil my enjoyment or my Sunday morning. From there, it was back to the car for the drive home. The roads were much quieter than they had been on Friday (and the Chonburi/Bang Na toll road was free), so we were home in SriRacha just over an hour after leaving Erawan. Then it was fish in fridge, kettle on and feet up. Sunday afternoon.
So, there you have it, the story of our weekend. We both really enjoyed it - and would've done even if we'd lost...but I'm glad we didn't! It's just a shame that the rest of the League Cup ties are scheduled for midweek, as I really enjoy visiting these lower league grounds and would certainly have more trips away like this. A real reminder of the good old days.
Samut Sakhon 1-4 Chonburi
9th April, 2016
Attendance: 3,420
A League Cup tie in Samut Sakhon. The chance for a short weekend getaway and the opportunity to watch some old skool Thai football. Perfect. Here's the story of our trip.
FRIDAY 8th APRIL
After a leisurely breakfast, we left home just before 10:00am and immediately ran into heavy traffic on the SriRacha to Chonburi highway. There had been an accident on the central reservation and this meant that the outside lanes in both directions were closed, as the emergency services dealt with the situation. Thankfully there didn't appear to be any serious injuries, but I doubt that lamp post will see action again. Following a much smoother run on the Chonburi/Bang Na toll road, we once again hit problems on the Rama II Bridge, as the numerous heavy goods vehicles slowed everything down to a crawl. Things didn't get much better on the other side of the river either, when we were faced with more delays, due to roadworks. However, once we got through Samut Sakhon, the roads were clear and we made good time on the final leg of our journey.
We eventually arrived at our canal side resort, on the outskirts of Samut Songkhram, a little after 1:30pm, and the "holiday" could begin. Following a quick shower to freshen up, we mounted a couple of the free bicycles which are avaiable to all guests and set off to explore the local area. It was lovely. So peaceful. And everyone we met greeted us with a smile and a wave. The highlight of the ride was when we saw two dogs chase a big lizard up a tree. Nature at its finest. When we cycled past on our way back sixty minutes later, things were just as they had been earlier - the two dogs patiently waiting at the foot of the tree, while the lizard clung on for dear life thirty feet above them. They're probably still there!
In the evening, we took a boat trip down the canal and the river to Ampawa Floating Market. This, for me, was my favourite part of the weekend. I love boats, and canals, and rivers. I could quite easily live in one of the many houses that grace the banks and travel everywhere by water. The perfect life.
Ampawa itself was fairly quiet, with many of the shops shut, so we ensconsed ourselves in a lovely restaurant, enjoyed a delicious meal and listened to one of the best live house bands I've heard. They covered many different styles and attacked each one with unbridled joy (although, I felt their rendition of All My Loving was too slow). A great way to end the day.
SATURDAY 9th APRIL
We checked out of our resort at midday and made the short trip to the Railway Market in Samut Songkhram. I've driven past this (in)famous place many times, but never actually stopped before, so today was a first for me. Sadly, the timing of our visit meant we were unable to catch the train - or watch it go past. However, my wife had a shopping list as long as her arm, so we managed to keep ourselves occupied for over an hour, as she dragged me from stall to stall in search of various kinds of fish and other seafood. I really enjoyed the experience, in spite of the intense heat - at one point I went outside to stand in the direct sunlight in order to cool down! - and would recommend it to anyone.
After the market, we drove the twenty miles to our next destination - the Central Place Hotel in Samut Sakhon. We had chosen this particular hotel, as the map shows it is located within a five hundred yard walk of the Samut Sakhon Central Stadium - the venue of our evening cup tie. On arrival, we discovered that we weren't the only ones who were enticed by its close proximity to the ground - the entire Chonburi FC entourage had also opted to stay there. Unfortunately, as were staying in a different wing (oh yes!), I didn't get to meet any of the players or coaching staff. However, the bus driver and a couple of the kit lads recognised me and said 'hello'.
Following her exersions at the market earlier in the day, 'er indoors decided that forty winks was preferrable to a dry run (walk) from the hotel to the ground, so I set out on foot by myself for a quick recce of the area. As promised, it only took three or four minutes for me to stroll to the stadium and get my bearings. As it was still a good four hours until kick off, I also managed to take numerous photographs of the groundstaff and TV people setting up in readiness for the big match (see attached). I was able to wander around at will and snap away to my heart's content. The only place I wasn't allowed into was the Chonburi dressing room. They had the tactics board up and didn't want me photographing it (true story!). So, without knowing how we were going to approach the game, I returned to the hotel for a rest and a cup of tea.
A couple of hours later and now with Mrs F in tow, I repeated my earlier amble. Only this time, it was for the real thing. Whereas before the streets had been quiet, there were now groups of people heading purposefully in the direction of the ground and the noise of drums and singing could be heard as soon as we stepped out of the hotel. Match day!
The majority of visiting fans had congregated at a small shop opposite the away end entrance. It was nice to see lots of familiar faces, some who don't go as regularly as they used to, but had taken advantage of the pre Songkran weekend for an overnight stay in Samut Sakhon. Inside the stadium, we were greeted by our friends Tim and Claire, who had very kindly saved space on the terraces for us. Tim also had a present for me - more of which later! - and a nice cold pint.
The match itself was a fairly one sided affair, as Chonburi cruised to victory. Even though the quality of the opposition wasn't that great, it was pleasing to see us pass the ball around and watch players move into space when not in possession. I'm making a rod for my own back here, but slowly and surely Therdsak seems to be imposing his style of play on the team and early signs are encouraging. The defence - and goalkeeper position in particular - is still a worry, but hopefully this will improve once we have a settled back four. Noppanon has returned, which will certainly help in this respect. In midfield, Prakit dominated (as you would expect) and Phanupong really seemed to be enjoying himself. Up front, Leandro and Pipob (in what will surely be a rare outing) worked tirelessly and created plenty of problems for the home defence. So, all in all, a very satisfying evening's work, especially as other PLT teams didn't fare so well.
Once we had cheered the team off and said our goodbyes to our fellow fans, we caught a taxi and headed into town. We found a smart and lively place called Prompt, which was showing the English Premier League - at least it was when we arrived, but they soon switched over to La Liga! However, the food was excellent and reasonably priced, so we stayed for a couple of hours, just enjoying the atmosphere, before heading back to the hotel and bed.
SUNDAY 10th APRIL
We were in no real rush to get home, so after checkng out of the Central Place, we decided to stop off at the Erawan Museum in Samut Prakan. As with the Railway Market, I've passed many times, but never visited. As I'd already forewarned my wife that I would - as always - refuse to pay the "foreigner" price, I made sure I had a survival kit (consisting of a book, a bottle of water and packet of crisps) with me, should I have to kill time whilst she was inside. However, it wasn't necessary, as they accepted my "local" payment without any fuss whatsoever. Result!
The museum itself was quite impressive and we spent a couple of hours just pottering about. I was disappointed that we couldn't actually see anything once we had climbed all the way to the top on the inside of the three headed elephant monument - I was expecting a viewpoint - but I didn't let this spoil my enjoyment or my Sunday morning. From there, it was back to the car for the drive home. The roads were much quieter than they had been on Friday (and the Chonburi/Bang Na toll road was free), so we were home in SriRacha just over an hour after leaving Erawan. Then it was fish in fridge, kettle on and feet up. Sunday afternoon.
So, there you have it, the story of our weekend. We both really enjoyed it - and would've done even if we'd lost...but I'm glad we didn't! It's just a shame that the rest of the League Cup ties are scheduled for midweek, as I really enjoy visiting these lower league grounds and would certainly have more trips away like this. A real reminder of the good old days.
Wednesday 29 January 2020
Season Previews: 2016
Tommie Duncan (Port), Russ John (Nakorn Ratchasima) and Rob McEvoy (Neutral) preview the 2016 season.
TOMMIE DUNCAN: PORT FC (DIVISION ONE)
Which teams do you think will finish in the top 4 and the bottom 3?
For the TPL I think Buriram, BKK Utd, MTU, and Suphan will make up the top four. Perhaps BKK Glass might slip in there as well. Bottom 3 is wide open. So many substandard sides this year. The gap between the top and the bottom is widening. I think this will make for a less than exciting year when it comes to the competition.
For Div 1 I think Port, PTT, Chiang Mai, Ubon, and Nakhon Pathom have the best shot at finishing in the top. As far as the bottom is concerned I don't really know enough about the teams to have an informed opinion.
Which ground are you most looking forward to visiting?
Actually I like going to PTT. It is really one of the best grounds and settings in Thailand. Too bad we can't have a facility like that in Central Bangkok. Also look forward to Chiang Mai.
What, in general, are you most looking forward to?
I do think Port will be one of the top teams in Div 1. Should be a very different experience from last year's debacle. Well, at least we hope it is.
What are the expectations for your team?
Actually I have quite low expectations for the season. The level of play has decreased each of the 5 years I have been a fan and the league is getting less and less competitive with the top team (teams) making strides and the rest backpedaling. The admin of the league is also a joke. Constantly changing schedules, poor marketing, and no focus on the fan experience is making it quite tedious to follow.
Who will be the heroes and villains in 2016?
Heroes; Well I really don't see any with the exception of coaches like Manu and a few players. Villains; that would be almost all folks associated with the game in this country.
Is there anything else you'd like to add?
I think we are getting close to a make or break point with pro-football in Thailand. Will the league flourish or languish? So much promise and such a good market, but it seems those involved are bound and determined to make every bad decision they can in order to ensure that the league flounders. Really, it is not fun to watch. So many of the foreign Port supporters are just about fed up...and that includes me.
RUSS JOHN - NAKHON RATCHASIMA (PLT)
Which teams do you think will finish in the top 4 and bottom 3?
Top 4:
1. Buriram United
2. Bangkok United
3. Muang Thong United
4. Suphanburi
I have placed Buriram top because they were basically miles ahead of anyone else in the pack last season – and have sensibly improved their squad. Diogo will be missed early doors but I feel that they have good cover for him. Bangkok United were a good, well coached team last year and have made some useful acquisitions to bolster their squad and I think they may challenge Buriram. Muang Thong (AKA) last year’s BEC Tero should be strong but I cannot help feeling that the players that they have signed up from Tero failed miserably last year so one has to ask, “Will they be any different this year?” Suphanburi have high aspirations and will have a successful season.
Bottom 3
Pattaya United
BBCU
Sukhothai
Sorry to say that I feel that all of the PLT newcomers will struggle this season. Most current mid table PLT teams have strengthened and I think that the league is generally stronger throughout. I cannot see that the promoted teams have the quality of players or experience to survive. Based on last season’s late season performances, I have a feeling that Osotspa may also struggle.
Which ground are you most looking forward to visiting?
Apart from the 80th Anniversary, I always enjoy a weekend in Buriram – great ground, good atmosphere. The Pattaya United game will give me an(other) excuse to visit “Sin City” !!
What, in general, are you most looking forward to?
I am looking forward to seeing if the Swatcats can equal or maybe better their 8th place of last season but generally I am looking forward to putting all the drama behind us and getting on with some great football. The top teams have all strengthened and I think the league will be more competitive that last year.
What are the expectations for your team?
My hope for NRFC is that firstly we avoid relegation – anything else will be a bonus. I think that last year will be a hard act to follow. I just want the team to establish itself as a PLT team and gradually build and gain experience. I look forward to watching Bangkok United – they play good entertaining football and of course the Buriram game at home will be worth watching (if I can get in that is!!)
Who will be the heroes and villains in 2016?
The villains (in many people’s eyes but not mine) will be Buriram and I think Tero will take some stick for the way in which they maintained their PLT status. Heroes, I’m not sure but bearing in mind my earlier thoughts on the promoted teams, everyone likes an underdog to succeed, so maybe one of the teams may shock us and do well.
Is there anything else you'd like to add?
Many teams seem to have tried to progress with many bolstering their squads with new foreign imports. I suspect that this season will produce a real “slugfest” with “Battles Royal” in the struggle for top five and the fight against relegation. It will be interesting to see how the two teams who have had traumatic off seasons – Chonburi and Tero, manage in the upcoming season. To me, too many changes can spell disaster and any team who disposes of some of its best players may be asking for trouble.
Whatever happens, I hope that after the trials and tribulations of the close season, the TPL enjoys a successful year with competitive matches watched by bumper crowds.
ROB McEVOY - NEUTRAL
Which teams do you think will finish in the top 4 and the bottom 3?
1 Buriram - Diogo and Newin are too good. Now he owns it politically is only 1 winner
2 Bangkok United
3 Suphanburi
4 Ratchaburi (Im not sure about this but didnt want the same Top 4 as everyone else)
MTU have lost their best player, and without him Cleiton seems half the player too. Their new foreigners aren't in the same class, and the BEC Tero players were in a team that got relegated last year. Also the coach is unproven and Thai MNT players will be distracted.
Relegated
18 BBCU (not enough money or time)
17 Pattaya United (MTU 3rd team with no preparation time)
16 BEC Tero (relegated last year and have lost all the best players, MTU reserves arent that good)
Which ground are you most looking forward to visiting?
I want to visit Buriram, and maybe Sisaket. Much prefer regional grounds but living in Bkk dont get to go much. Not looking forward to Thammasart with its 25000 empty seats and BBCU with its 1 guy and a megaphone.
What are you most looking forward to this season?
I think most looking forward to being able to watch again after having a pregnant wife and then young baby last year. Is a poor product on TV.
Which teams are you most looking forward to watching?
I dont really have a team but I think Buriram will win by miles. Diogo would win the league if you put him in any team.
I will probably go to watch MTU most as now I have a son I want to take him to football and for him to have a team, but I dont want him to be a glory fan, so with the politics and signings I feel safe for him to support MTU. Still a good crowd, atmosphere and they do have big names, just big Thai names.
Hopefully Mano will survive and prosper at Bangkok United, showing how backing a coach and giving him control is the way forward.
Think Sukothai will do better than expected. Well connected and quite a wealthy area.
Who will be the heroes and villains in 2016?
Heroes:
Newin - gets things done and succeeds where others fail.
Heberty - puts up with so much nonsense and produces the goods week in week out.
Villains:
Referee du jour and the fans who moan. Someone has to cop the flak for all the nonsense and without fail it is the referee. With no backing from the FA or anyone, and suspensions at the drop of a hat, wouldnt you take money if offered. Every club owner (not fans) knows how the system works, yet only moan when it works against them (no I wont explain the system in print). For example, I didnt hear any Chonburi fans complaining when the ref sent 2 x MTU players off in the first half last season, but I have a fair idea why the ref was so strict that day. Everyone remembers the bad calls and conveniently forgets the ones that go their way.
Too Much Too Young by Matt Riley: 2014
Too Much Too Young: Thailand's AFC Reality Check
by Matt Riley
14th May, 2014
Looking back at AFC Cup records, the evidence doesn't suggest Thai teams sated with success and desperate to explore the heady horizons of the AFC Champions League. In 2007 Osotspa made the group stages, Chonburi got to the quarter finals in 2009 and 2011 before the semi finals in 2012, whilst Muang Thong United reached the semi finals then quarter finals 2010 and 11. This year there were no Thai AFC Cup teams. Admittedly considered the Europa League of South East Asia, it does give clubs increased profile, the chance of silverware and ranking points. However, with precisely zero AFC wins and no final appearances, the Thai urge to run has been undermined by an inability to walk.
With three Thai clubs in the AFC Champions League this season, hopes were high of making a big impression. Last season Buriram Utd, following a tight quarter final that appeared theirs to win going into the second half of the second leg against Esteghlal, this season was a sobering experience. Targeting a top five AFC rank, the Thunder Castle failed to reach the ACL last sixteen. Although starting with a strong away draw at Shandong Luneng, the five home points dropped against Pohang Steelers and Cerezo Osaka proved fatal, leaving them two points shy of qualification.
Despite SCG Muang Thong defeating a weak Hanoi T&T in the first qualification round and Chonburi overcoming South China, Muang Thong were edged out by Melbourne Victory and Chonburi soundly thrashed by Beijing Guoan. Thai teams fell between two stools of failing in the showpiece tournament and missing out on ranking points in less glamorous surroundings.
This arrogance may well come back to haunt Thai football. The loss of ranking points in a system which targets stadia, marketing, transport links and attendances may seem unlikely with the huge growth in Thai football, but the shiny new teams still have to perform on the Asian stage. If Worawi Makudi cannot weave his magic at AFC Towers, Thai clubs will have less evidence for three slots. Australia's three saw Western City Wanderers in the round of sixteen, Central Coast Mariners make it through to the group stages and Melbourne Victory missing out on the last sixteen by a single goal in an extremely strong group.
Thai teams are getting stronger; the surprises in the Thai Premier League show that. But the harsh reality is that development takes time. Thai clubs should have at least three AFC Cup titles before taking on the Big Boys. They are now very small fish in a Champions League ocean, but feel they are big fish in the AFC Cup pond. With no silverware to back up that boast, it only breeds resentment from "lesser" leagues with more international success. One automatic Champions League place for the TPL champions and two group stage AFC slots is the right level at this point, but who has the nerve to tell The Emperor he has no clothes?
by Matt Riley
14th May, 2014
Looking back at AFC Cup records, the evidence doesn't suggest Thai teams sated with success and desperate to explore the heady horizons of the AFC Champions League. In 2007 Osotspa made the group stages, Chonburi got to the quarter finals in 2009 and 2011 before the semi finals in 2012, whilst Muang Thong United reached the semi finals then quarter finals 2010 and 11. This year there were no Thai AFC Cup teams. Admittedly considered the Europa League of South East Asia, it does give clubs increased profile, the chance of silverware and ranking points. However, with precisely zero AFC wins and no final appearances, the Thai urge to run has been undermined by an inability to walk.
With three Thai clubs in the AFC Champions League this season, hopes were high of making a big impression. Last season Buriram Utd, following a tight quarter final that appeared theirs to win going into the second half of the second leg against Esteghlal, this season was a sobering experience. Targeting a top five AFC rank, the Thunder Castle failed to reach the ACL last sixteen. Although starting with a strong away draw at Shandong Luneng, the five home points dropped against Pohang Steelers and Cerezo Osaka proved fatal, leaving them two points shy of qualification.
Despite SCG Muang Thong defeating a weak Hanoi T&T in the first qualification round and Chonburi overcoming South China, Muang Thong were edged out by Melbourne Victory and Chonburi soundly thrashed by Beijing Guoan. Thai teams fell between two stools of failing in the showpiece tournament and missing out on ranking points in less glamorous surroundings.
This arrogance may well come back to haunt Thai football. The loss of ranking points in a system which targets stadia, marketing, transport links and attendances may seem unlikely with the huge growth in Thai football, but the shiny new teams still have to perform on the Asian stage. If Worawi Makudi cannot weave his magic at AFC Towers, Thai clubs will have less evidence for three slots. Australia's three saw Western City Wanderers in the round of sixteen, Central Coast Mariners make it through to the group stages and Melbourne Victory missing out on the last sixteen by a single goal in an extremely strong group.
Thai teams are getting stronger; the surprises in the Thai Premier League show that. But the harsh reality is that development takes time. Thai clubs should have at least three AFC Cup titles before taking on the Big Boys. They are now very small fish in a Champions League ocean, but feel they are big fish in the AFC Cup pond. With no silverware to back up that boast, it only breeds resentment from "lesser" leagues with more international success. One automatic Champions League place for the TPL champions and two group stage AFC slots is the right level at this point, but who has the nerve to tell The Emperor he has no clothes?
Tuesday 28 January 2020
Unknown Pleasures: 2015
What was it like to be a Chonburi fan in May, 2015? Read on to find out...
Atmosphere
In spite of the impressive attendances at home so far this season (up on previous years), there is a distinct lack of atmosphere at Chonburi Stadium on match days. Maybe the fans have finally realised that all is not well round our way. We'd also appreciate being able to take food and drink inside again (yes, that old chestnut!), surely we can be trusted now?
Atrocity Exhibition
This neatly sums up some of our performances in 2015. Particularly the laboured home win against Rajapruk Muangnont Utd in the League Cup. My word, we did make hard work of beating a bunch of part timers. This is also a good description of Thai refereeing standards and players who feign injury - you know who you are.
Candidate
Was Jadet the only candidate for the job after Wada's shock resignation following last year's disappointing FA Cup final defeat? What a shame we didn't take more time in making the appointment - or persuading Wada to stay. Even though our star is fading, there are surely a number of top coaches who would jump at the chance of working at our club.
Decades
Under the current regime, and the way we are playing, it will be this long before we win anything again.
From Safety To Where...?
So, we'll stay up this season - there are (thankfully) at least three TPL teams worse than us (ToT, Navy, Saraburi)- but where will we go from here? It's clear to anyone with any understanding of football that we need a major shake up at the club in order to keep up with the top sides.
Heart and Soul
Something we'd like to see a bit more of on the field. It's never easy to accept that we don't quite cut the mustard any more but all we ever ask is for the players to try. There are one or two who have been cruising for a while now, or who are living on their (highly inflated) reputations. Get out there each week and prove yourselves. Who knows, you might actually enjoy it.
New Dawn Fades
All the optimism that accompanied the brave choice of Masahiro Wada as our head coach at the beginning of 2014 - and the success that brought - has long since evaporated. Reappointing Jadet (who is someone I personally like) was a huge step backwards and it's difficult to say where we go from here. Downhill?
Novelty
All those lovely t-shirts and other quirky items that we are constantly plugging in the shop and on the official website are all well and good but we'd much prefer a decent team. Message to the club - it's what happens on the field that counts, please concentrate all your efforts on that and not flogging us cheap tat. Thank you.
These Days
Going to the match is more often a chore than a pleasure these days. Please try and make it the latter again. We just need something to give us some hope and something to entertain us. It's not a lot to ask. Is it?
Wilderness
Where we'll remain until the senior management realises that we can't go on living off our (fading - that word again) reputation. Serious investment is needed and a complete overhaul is required to make us competitive again. Most of the long term fans can see this, why can't they?
Atmosphere
In spite of the impressive attendances at home so far this season (up on previous years), there is a distinct lack of atmosphere at Chonburi Stadium on match days. Maybe the fans have finally realised that all is not well round our way. We'd also appreciate being able to take food and drink inside again (yes, that old chestnut!), surely we can be trusted now?
Atrocity Exhibition
This neatly sums up some of our performances in 2015. Particularly the laboured home win against Rajapruk Muangnont Utd in the League Cup. My word, we did make hard work of beating a bunch of part timers. This is also a good description of Thai refereeing standards and players who feign injury - you know who you are.
Candidate
Was Jadet the only candidate for the job after Wada's shock resignation following last year's disappointing FA Cup final defeat? What a shame we didn't take more time in making the appointment - or persuading Wada to stay. Even though our star is fading, there are surely a number of top coaches who would jump at the chance of working at our club.
Decades
Under the current regime, and the way we are playing, it will be this long before we win anything again.
From Safety To Where...?
So, we'll stay up this season - there are (thankfully) at least three TPL teams worse than us (ToT, Navy, Saraburi)- but where will we go from here? It's clear to anyone with any understanding of football that we need a major shake up at the club in order to keep up with the top sides.
Heart and Soul
Something we'd like to see a bit more of on the field. It's never easy to accept that we don't quite cut the mustard any more but all we ever ask is for the players to try. There are one or two who have been cruising for a while now, or who are living on their (highly inflated) reputations. Get out there each week and prove yourselves. Who knows, you might actually enjoy it.
New Dawn Fades
All the optimism that accompanied the brave choice of Masahiro Wada as our head coach at the beginning of 2014 - and the success that brought - has long since evaporated. Reappointing Jadet (who is someone I personally like) was a huge step backwards and it's difficult to say where we go from here. Downhill?
Novelty
All those lovely t-shirts and other quirky items that we are constantly plugging in the shop and on the official website are all well and good but we'd much prefer a decent team. Message to the club - it's what happens on the field that counts, please concentrate all your efforts on that and not flogging us cheap tat. Thank you.
These Days
Going to the match is more often a chore than a pleasure these days. Please try and make it the latter again. We just need something to give us some hope and something to entertain us. It's not a lot to ask. Is it?
Wilderness
Where we'll remain until the senior management realises that we can't go on living off our (fading - that word again) reputation. Serious investment is needed and a complete overhaul is required to make us competitive again. Most of the long term fans can see this, why can't they?
Monday 27 January 2020
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